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fruitisgood
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The sun is shining and it doesn't matter

Going outside never steers me wrong, yet today was the first day I can note where I got up, after laying in bed feeling crap for 2-3 hours, put my swimmers on and went for a swim and snorkel at the beach. And ... I felt nothing. No joy. no excitement to be out. Not even a smidge of happiness. I was completely numb and going through the motions.

All I wanted to do was go home. I stayed in the water for a bit then eventually went home, and Ive just been laying in bed all day. 

I woke up with my eyes shot open feeling an /overwhelming/ sense of hopelessness. Perhaps it was the dreams I had. Financial stress is nagging at me too. I felt/ feel like I was/ am going nowhere and slowly, quietly dying. 

 

I feel like I have a persistent hunger with no remedy. when I seek support I get annoyed that all they want to focus on is what I did right. The other day I called up a support line in tears, talking about how achingly lonely I felt, and all they could say was "good job going to art class. Not all connection needs to be deep." they just parrot what I already know. and so I leave those calls feeling dissatisfied and questioning is it just me whos the problem, and also understanding that they dont know me and realistically I dont even know what Im seeking half the time. Am I just making it harder for myself. But why would I actually do that. 

 

Maybe I just desperately need to feel like I can be in the presence of another and to hear them just go "damn. that sucks. that really sucks. I hear youre in pain." no frills, no positive spin. Maybe it feels like it invalidates something when they all try to fixate on how smart and insightful I am, or when I do a good thing its wonderful. why does that feel so wrong to me? 

 

I hate good weather guilt. yet when I go outside im uncomfortable and just want to go to sleep. 

 

"practice self love. be kind to yourself. Be compassionate!" yeah yeah yeah I cant force myself to do that magically. I cant brute force myself into believing its compassion and love. why is this all making me feel so angry and irritated and worse? 

 

why does it feel like everything is getting worse? 

 

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Re: The sun is shining and it doesn't matter

to top all of this off, I also struggle with severe trichotillomania aswell. Ive been pulling so much, and its impacting on my self esteem in a huge way. does anyone else struggle with trich here?  

Re: The sun is shining and it doesn't matter

@fruitisgood 

 

Hi, I had to look up trichotillomania to be honest. My friend has a daughter who has that. She leaves big bloody bald spots on her head. My friend tries to bribe her not to do it by promising hair colours. She likes pink. My friend will say to her no pulling or no scratching when she notices her doing it. I guess it's harder if you don't have anyone to verbally remind you not to do it.

 

I am sorry that you didn't get the response you were hoping for from the helpline. When I contacted one I didn't really get anything helpful either. I am not saying that they are not helpful at all, just that if you know what you want they are trained to say certain things and it is probably not the response you are looking for. I am sorry things are so bad at the moment. It is really hard when you are feeling hopeless. I am sitting with you and am here for you. Things can improve. I used to be in a really hopeless position too and now things are really good. There is hope.

Re: The sun is shining and it doesn't matter

Hey @fruitisgood I'm sorry to hear you're surfing the waves of numbness and anhedonia. Loss of a sense of joy or desire is one of the hardest things to experience in my books. That feeling of disconnection and apathy can be so excruciating, and I'm sorry that you're sitting in that space right now. 

 

To give you a little idea of what might be going on when you're reaching out for support - many 'brief intervention' roles (i.e. those on helplines) where the MH worker is not having an ongoing relationship with someone, are trained in a strengths-based, solution-focused style. From what you've said, it sounds like you need to be held in your grief and pain, not told how to 'fix' it or told that you're 'doing well despite it all' - even if those things are positives, and maybe worth focusing on at some point, it's okay to feel like that's not what you need right now.

We all deserve validation and reassurance, and honestly I can say from experience that feeling heard and understood in our pain, and in a way that is that focused on right here, right now, can be really powerful. And like...yeah, if there's too much focus on some nebulous future that feels out of reach, it can feel very misattuned, even painful, and sometimes even perpetuate feelings of shame that we don't feel able to 'solve' our feelings. 

It's so valid to feel a sense of frustration, and also valid to tell MH workers who are supporting you that you don't need solutions or positive angles, you just need to feel heard. 

 

As for trichotillomania, funnily enough this came up in a conversation I was having recently on the forums! If you feel up to it, you're more than welcome to create a thread centred on this topic, as there may be a few people around who can relate to it. I used to have it mildly myself, and now my shins are half-bald even a decade later 😅 

It's tough when it's an experience that's not often spoken about, but maybe you can kick start the conversation! Up to you 💜

Re: The sun is shining and it doesn't matter

@Jynx 

 

I just wanted to say that I really liked your response to @fruitisgood  

Yes people on helplines have particular training which is recovery oriented and strengths based. However I really liked what you said about validation. Validation is so important and cannot be overrated.

Re: The sun is shining and it doesn't matter

Bless @Oaktree you are always so kind 💜 

Re: The sun is shining and it doesn't matter

@Oaktree  Thankyou for that validation. I am glad to hear youre in a better place too 

 

@Jynx Its comforting to know Im not alone in how I feel about utilising support lines. They can be good and have helped me but sometimes they just dont quite scratch that itch. 

As for the trich thing, if I were to do that where would be the best discussion to write about it? 

Re: The sun is shining and it doesn't matter

Hiya @fruitisgood - if you use the 'Start new discussion' button at the top of the page you can create a new thread for trich! This space is probably a good fit, but Recovery Club is also a good spot to chat about this topic I reckon! 

There's instructions for making a new post in this How-To thread (thanks @Oaktree 😁)