08-10-2024 08:23 PM
08-10-2024 08:23 PM
@Blackcloud yep i asked because a lot of what you said reminded me of myself a couple years ago, i really struggled with talking with people (my social anxiety was VERY high back then and also i felt like i severely lacked social skills almost because of the way i was brought up, my parents didn't really encourage me to socialise + when i had opportunities to, they'd take it away).
do you tend to assume the other person's feelings/thoughts when talking to them too? like you feel like they might want the convo to end so you end it for them? or you feel they might be getting angry so you apologise before it even escalates?
you definitely don't owe them apology if you've done nothing wrong!!! i know it's tempting to say it so you de-escalate the situation, but its not fair on you!! if people get angry/mad, that's on them - we can't control how other people feel but we can control our own thoughts/feelings/actions. took me a long time to realise that if something i say makes someone angry, its not my responsibility to make them feel less angry, especially if all I've done is voice my needs or honest thoughts/feelings. hope you know that you deserve to have your voice heard too and you're not responsible for other people's emotions, that burden does not land on you!!
hmm yep that's interesting with the eye contact thing... i guess you could ask them about it but i'm guessing you'd much rather not 😆 hopefully she'll stop soon or you'll move out by then!
good to hear that you're requests been forwarded to management!! if they do take too long, its good you've got the option to contact them but fingers crossed they'll get back to you via email soon!!
08-10-2024 08:40 PM - edited 09-10-2024 12:04 PM
08-10-2024 08:40 PM - edited 09-10-2024 12:04 PM
@rav3n my answer to all your questions in your second paragraph is yes (for each question). And thank you for this!!!! This is exactly what I need to hear (that I don’t owe anyone an apology). But yeah ever since I’ve became an adult, I have been working on not owing people an apology for something that I’m not responsible for, and honestly it feels great to realise that what I say is what I say and that I don’t owe anyone an apology indeed. I didn’t get to mention before that I use to mainly apologise to people when I was younger because of past experiences. But yeah.
Lol, and also when I was about to head out the door whilst holding my laptop and grabbing my cup of tea with my other hand off the table whilst I’m holding the door open (the table is located right near/infront of the door anyway), she was looking at me after she came back from the bathroom. Like girl???? 😐:face_with_rolling_eyes: she won’t stop soon from what I can tell, and hopefully I’ll definitely move out soon! Or at least the manager can approve of that!
I’ve just received an email from the reception guy that works at the reception right now and he advised me to come speak to the reception staff and the management the next morning with regards to the room allocation….ok….😐😐😶 well scary as….
EDIT: it's the next day now and I did go to the reception this morning, and I spoke to the guy there that the other staff I spoke with yesterday evening told me to come down to the reception to speak with them and the management regarding my room relocation request, and then he was like "ok, I dont know why he told you that" so true, I don't know why he also told me to come down to the reception to speak with them and the management about this too lol!! But yeah luckily, they did found a room for me to relocate to soon this month, and hopefully it stays that way!! PHEW
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11-10-2024 05:58 PM
11-10-2024 05:58 PM
hey @Blackcloud i'm around tonight, what's up 😊
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11-10-2024 07:45 PM
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@tyme so a few days ago I asked the reception if I can allocate to a private/individual room in the accomodation, and apparently you can. I actually lied when I told you last week that I would’ve “breached my contract” if I moved rooms during the contract period, but turned out that wasn’t even the case at all. And today, they got me a private room in the accomodation that was vacant as of today (which is the one I’m at right now). I also had to sign the room allocation form before relocating too.
11-10-2024 07:49 PM
11-10-2024 07:49 PM
@Blackcloud oh what!! that's so quick, omg yay!! how are you finding the move?
11-10-2024 07:56 PM
11-10-2024 07:56 PM
Hi @Blackcloud
I only just came across this discussion and just wanted to tell you that this Gen-x'er completely understands how hard it is fitting in anywhere socially. I've always struggled really badly with it, especially when I was in school. Even when I got older and how to find work, I struggled badly there because the thought of going into a strange place, full of people that I didn't know, absolutely terrified me!
So I avoided it. Mainly because the thought of even applying gave me so much anxiety that would get so bad that I just stopped applying because it forgot so bad that I just couldn't function. I never felt I could explain to anyone how much I was struggling because I felt humiliated and ashamed so I struggled on avoiding people and feeling like a complete and hopeless failure.
By the time I had gotten a little better at it, i Had been unemployed for a while and I still didn't have any confidence around people so applications didn't go well and i went my self worth went backwards and any improvement in that area was lost.
I got a volunteer position in the late 90s and they were so impressed by what I could do, they gave me a job, teaching computer skills to people originally (which was also terrifying) and then managing all their computers and their network. I stayed for 20 years.
It's hard when you dont feel like you fit in, in so many ways. And it's hard to talk to anyone because you just get told to go and talk to people. No one seems to understand how hard that is. It eats away at your confidence and it feels like it will never change.
It can change, maybe not a lot, but enough to start to find people to connect with. It took me over 40 years to even start to do this. Then just over another 10 to really get anywhere. Now i'm not saying you have to wait that long, just that it took me so long to even try. You're here now in this group telling people how you feel, and that was a massive first step for me. Everything I've achieved in getting better around people and with my self-esteem, was built from that first time reaching out on an online forum similar to this one. So be proud of yourself. Even coming here and sharing what you already have has put you on the right path. Just stick with it, even when you feel like you're getting nowhere. Because you are!
In my experience, people just tend to avoid people who aren't very outgoing. And not because they don't like the quiet person sitting alone in the back corner, but... i think, because they assume that person wants to be left alone. It like we put a big sign on our head that says 'leave me alone'. The right people for us don't see that sign. These are the people who will make your life better and happier. It's just a matter of finding them.
So have some faith in yourself @Blackcloud. You are worth knowing, worth liking, worth getting to know. And because of how we grew up, I'm sure you would be among the more caring and empathetic friend a person could have.
That fear is the kicker though. That's the battle. But the trick is to learn we fear the wrong thing. We are used to rejection... being ignored is rejection so what does it matter if we risk getting a little more? Talk to people, let them get to know you. It only take 1 or 2 people who you get on well with to change everything.
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