13-08-2014 10:48 PM
13-08-2014 10:48 PM
Hey, no need to apologise at all! I totally get what that's like! You should see mine before I edit them. It must be my nit-picking tendency coming out that makes me read it 3 times before posting. Even then I miss stuff when I'm upset or in a hurry!
Best regards,
Kristin
14-08-2014 05:29 PM
14-08-2014 05:29 PM
Hi Kristin
I had discussed this issue in detail quite recently so wih na couple of other schizophrenics and I wanted to post a bit of a blurb about it.
In my case "stream of consciousness" is a style of writing that arises from schizophrenia with the forward motion of ideas and thought processes converted to text as they happen and all that. I am sure many schizophrenics write this way.
Its actually not by choice but is hardwired in as I think Jake said in a discussion recently. As you know this is characterised by lack of punctuation and sometimes syntax and thought processes which might be illogical to the casual observer.
I used to be sensitive about this way of written communication as in the past it was often used to substantiate a diagnosis of a person as "mental" in a derogatory sense.
It wasn't until I read the essay about this by William James, late nineteenth century, that I understood that it was another way of communicating albeit, unusually. A number of American and English writers took up the style intentionally,as in the case of Virginia Wolf etc.
Now I consider it a part of my identity and an addition to the creativity which has been enhanced by my MI.
It is not possible in this style to write with page breaks and paragraphs, as it is with others, because the thought processes don't allow for interruption.
Stopping to edit ruins the flow and then the "spell"of the experience of writing and communicating the "now experience is lost. The whole process allows the reader to briefly glimpse the thoughts and ideas occurring at that point in time, and that point in time only.
Anyway I have talked my flatmate into editing posts for me because once it is written, it is written, the thoughts are gone and I never return to it.
Interestingly, apart from the enormous frustration, from the lecturers when I was doing creative writing at the uni, it was considered an acceptable and unique style of writing.
I am glad you mentioned the term. I hope someone finds the info of interest
Kenny
14-08-2014 09:39 PM
14-08-2014 09:39 PM
Hi Kenny,
Thanks so much for sharing all that and helping us (me) understand a bit better. Don't feel like you have to edit it - it just makes it easier to read and digest. I do kind-of get the stream of consciouness thing, because I often write poetry out of that space. It's hard for me to turn of or ignore my internal editor though. But you're right, quite necessary in order to be able to write in that way.
The main reason why I raised it was because I'd read enough of your posts to find them really interesting and worthwhile, but I find huge blocks of text rather confronting. I started finding myself baulking at reading your posts when feeling a bit pressed for time, I didn't want to miss out, nor for others to potentially be put off by a block post. You have shared many interesting things, and there's a crackling passion to your writing too. I wouldn't want to pull the teeth out of it, so I'm sorry I mentioned it.
Best regards,
Kristin
14-08-2014 10:51 PM
14-08-2014 10:51 PM
Hi Kristin
I am really glad you mentioned it and raised the topic. I understand totally about block text being off putting and confronting for people. It drives my flatmate crazy/ier, and he is a paranoid schizophrenic, There's got to be a message in that!!!!!!! So that's why he willingly took on the job of editor.
Anyway I wanted an opportunity to write about the positive aspects of being a schizophrenic, and there are some, for me anyway. One of them is that style of writing. So you have given me the perfect entry point on that. I hope that becomes an interesting topic for the forum.
All the best
Kenny
12-09-2014 08:56 PM
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Why
Never mind f u sane.org shit would have loved being able to communicate but no no help at all
13-09-2014 05:17 PM
13-09-2014 05:17 PM
Hey Kato,
I just responded to your other thread, so I hope that has been helpful.
The safety of the forum members is our highest priority. This means that all posts have an eye scanned over them. From 5pm - 10pm AEST the forums have a moderator online and it's our busiest time. We try and make this clear when a comment is posted.
As our forums are very new (though they may not seem like it - there are a lot of posts!) we are still building and growing and hope that we can have longer hours.
Many apologies that you found this frustrating. The forums aren't a crisis support service, but rather a place that people with similar experiences can connect.
I hope you continue posting because I know alot of members have similar experiences.
NikNik
13-09-2014 09:24 PM
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13-09-2014 09:28 PM
13-09-2014 09:28 PM
No worries Kato.
I'm really glad you've come back to the forums.
I responded to your original post, which you can find here
Welcome again & I hope to "see" you around the forums.
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